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Post by Memphis Creations on Oct 3, 2018 7:46:22 GMT -5
I agree with Menaceman, if S4S studio is their tool of choice, and a different site rejects it and brings errors to their attention, what else should they do? Throw away the entire project because tsr rejected it, and NOW even tho they use S4S, they can't ask for help on the S4S site? What the f?
I am no fan of that arrogant bunch at TSR, and thats well documented over the last few months how much i hate 'em, but with that said. I am not hoping that this site turns into a wannabe version of TSR, with bullshit rules that are crooked as TSR them selfs.
The rule Brujah mentioned, should only be applied with its about TSRw, not S4S, otherwise shut down the forum if you can't ask S4S related questions on the S4S forum.
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Post by orangemittens on Oct 3, 2018 11:38:27 GMT -5
Hi all, the comment below should not be taken as directed against any person who has posted in this thread.
If someone has a question about a project they are working on, it's fine to ask it here.
What is not fine is quoting the moderator of another site and asking us to explain or interpret that moderator's points.
Thus, if the question is "how do I edit an object's dirty state to match mine?" it's fine to ask that here.
If the question is, "I was told by a TSR moderator that my normal map isn't correct, but it looks fine to me...what's the problem?" that is not a question to ask here - it's a question for the person who told you there is something wrong with your normal map.
Further, asking about how to improve your object does not require a reprint of some other site's moderator's message nor a narrative about submitting the item only to have it rejected.
As has been stated before, this site is not here to support the moderation queues of other sites. That doesn't mean you cannot seek help here about a project you plan to submit to a moderated site.
It does mean that we do not need to read the messages from other sites here accompanying questions that basically require us to interpret or explain what the moderator said.
If you have a question about your project, ask the question - adding the moderator's message to you and discussing other site's moderation queue requirements are unnecessary.
If you have a message from a moderator at some other site that confuses you, ask the moderator who sent it to you. This is not the place to post messages that you received from a moderator at another site, and the moderator is the best person to ask about their moderation queue requirements anyway.
This policy allows us to avoid having to read the mind of an offsite moderator and the often contentious politics of offsite moderation queues in our Creator Help section, and I hope everyone understands why we would want to do both.
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Post by Memphis Creations on Oct 3, 2018 12:08:10 GMT -5
Hi all, the comment below should not be taken as directed against any person who has posted in this thread. If someone has a question about a project they are working on, it's fine to ask it here. What is not fine is quoting the moderator of another site and asking us to explain or interpret that moderator's points. Thus, if the question is "how do I edit an object's dirty state to match mine?" it's fine to ask that here. If the question is, "I was told by a TSR moderator that my normal map isn't correct, but it looks fine to me...what's the problem?" that is not a question to ask here - it's a question for the person who told you there is something wrong with your normal map. Further, asking about how to improve your object does not require a reprint of some other site's moderator's message nor a narrative about submitting the item only to have it rejected. As has been stated before, this site is not here to support the moderation queues of other sites. That doesn't mean you cannot seek help here about a project you plan to submit to a moderated site. It does mean that we do not need to read the messages from other sites here accompanying questions that basically require us to interpret or explain what the moderator said. If you have a question about your project, ask the question - adding the moderator's message to you and discussing other site's moderation queue requirements are unnecessary. If you have a message from a moderator at some other site that confuses you, ask the moderator who sent it to you. This is not the place to post messages that you received from a moderator at another site, and the moderator is the best person to ask about their moderation queue requirements anyway. This policy allows us to avoid having to read the mind of an offsite moderator and the often contentious politics of offsite moderation queues in our Creator Help section, and I hope everyone understands why we would want to do both. Sorry, you might be right in some points, but you can't change the fact, that when its either by own deduction or by someone off-site, when someone asks help on something related to S4S, your moderators can't say, you can't ask that here. They can't ask it on that site as they don't support s4s, just like s4s doesn't support tsrw, so they come to the most logical place to go to regarding a question about S4S, and that's the S4S site. So when a moderator says: You can't ask that here, its sending the wrong message. It's your policy, and it's all up to you, but at this rate, with that reply you will push away all new creators as they feel they can't ask a question about s4s. Was it needed for this person to quote that off-site mod? Probably not, but was it needed to react to this person, the same way TSR does? In such a blunt and toxic way, that i almost send you a message earlier today about removing my account, as I couldn't believe my eyes, that someone in need of help containing s4s, got told by and s4s that this question wasn't allowed to ask here. I get policy is important, but the users are even more important, because without the users, your policy means nothing anymore as there would be no one to uphold that policy to, please don't forget that. Please do not turn into some second rate version of TSR, when i joined this forum it's the first forum in almost 10 years i actively participated in, and today almost made sure i would never return to S4S, as i was shocked and offended by the way the mod reacted. |
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Post by Memphis Creations on Oct 4, 2018 16:34:57 GMT -5
Hi there,
After reading back my last message, i do come across in two ways that aren't the case. Let me say up first and most, if brujah or anyone else thought that i thought brujah is bad person, or he had evil intent, when this was still part of the original thread, that was not what i meant, nor my intentions to insinuate such a thing, and if i have offend brujah with this in any kind of way, do know i am sorry s that was not my intention.
The second thing is, it might seem i was raging about it, which is also not the case, why should you believe me? Well it didn't contain any profanity or such things. My messages were honest opinions and my point of view, and after reading all that, all i was trying to say was that the message could have been brought differently in its entire.
Let's all not forget this is the internet, and even the most nicest person you can think off, can look like a total douche on the internet, when a message is presented in a certain way, that's emoticons are so important to put in a message, because it will set the tone.
Again, if my opinion and points of view yesterday has offended someone in any kind of way, i am sorry.
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Post by orangemittens on Oct 4, 2018 17:08:12 GMT -5
Hi Memphis84, thank you for posting again. I agree that as we are all communicating through the internet, there are many opportunities for misunderstanding. For that reason, it's best if people view statements as being posted with the best possible intentions IMO, and that is the way I saw all posts in the original thread.  The rule about asking about offsite moderation queue requirements and messages in the Creator Help section is in place to keep the Creator Help section on the topic of using Sims 4 Studio to create a project, and all questions about how to make something with Studio are welcome in that section. Questions about what an off-site moderator is talking about are best directed to the off-site moderator. The off-site moderator must be the one to explain their queue requirements and how the object is failing to meet them - we cannot help explain off-site queue requirements here. If it becomes clear in a conversation with an off-site moderator that an object could be optimized by fixing something using Studio, it's fine to ask how to make that fix here. Comments about the process of dealing with an off-site moderator are not necessary to that query. This rule may, perhaps, involve a fine distinction, but it helps keep the Creator Help section from getting derailed into conversations about off-site moderation queues, rules, moderators, etc. This, in turn, helps keep the Creator Help section focused on its mission as a support section for Sims 4 Studio. I hope this helps clear things up. |
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Post by Leniad on Oct 4, 2018 18:14:35 GMT -5
Late to the party, but want to say only this - a possible brief synopsis. "Ask YOUR questions on the site, not anyone else's" |
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