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Post by jerrycnh on Jan 25, 2017 9:58:28 GMT -5
So here I am, a happy go lucky guy buying the Vampires expansion on Day 1. I found out through reading reviews and other articles that child vampires aren't going to be able to do a lot of the vampire stuff from the get go, and I decided I'm going to want to override that to some degree. Hence, I find this cool how-to article that refers me here.
Now, given that chain of events, my registering here someday was probably inevitable. Modding is a drug; I know this from my time modding Fallout 3. Once you start, ESPECIALLY if it's made as easy as S4S seems, from the screenshots, to be making it, you start going crazy with it. You want to share your creations, get feedback, ask questions of other modders... there's a natural flow there.
But when you're first downloading the modding tool, you don't even really know for sure if you're going to get serious about it yet.
So being forced to register here in order to download the tool is... let's go with "inappropriate", as it's a nice diplomatic alternative to the more choice words that are dancing in my brain right now. I really REALLY don't like that I had to put my email in here and be assimilated by this forum just to try the tool out at all. That's horse$#@!, bluntly.
So, let me begin my relationship with this community by stating clearly that it's way too early for me to be here. I don't WANT to be here yet. I have a VERY bad taste in my mouth because I was forced to be here if I wanted to try the tool. But, that said, I haven't actually tried the tool yet, and perhaps it will astound me so much with its awesomeness that my opinion of its creators will turn around. Who knows.
Anyone else feel similarly?
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Post by Kendo 2 on Jan 26, 2017 19:40:28 GMT -5
So here I am, ETC. Anyone else feel similarly? My unwanted advice to you...cool your jets. Sims 4 Studio is a very tranquil, peaceful and professionally ran site.
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Post by Spirashun on Jan 26, 2017 19:59:51 GMT -5
It's a tool provided to you for free by volunteers who get nothing in return. Asking you to register is a pretty small request in exchange, in my opinion.
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Post by Feyona on Jan 26, 2017 20:41:02 GMT -5
Anyone else feel similarly? Nope
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Post by Kendo 2 on Jan 26, 2017 20:56:52 GMT -5
It's a tool provided to you for free by volunteers who get nothing in return. Asking you to register is a pretty small request in exchange, in my opinion. This is true. Orangemittens and the contributors get nothing in return for their efforts other than user praise and members looking at the net15 (or whatever pay out they are) popups and ads. Registering an account here to get the free software, the associated tutorials and the community support are well worth it.
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Post by jerrycnh on Jan 28, 2017 10:23:21 GMT -5
All easy and valid points to agree to.. after establishing a relationship with a site. I'm just saying it's a rough first impression.
Made no better by the fact that all of you seem so focused on putting me in my place, that no one said welcome. :P (Kendo, in particular, seemed to imply the opposite.)
Thankfully, Orangemittens did PM me with a more welcoming and inclusive message, and even encouraged me to post this thread.
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Post by Merry927 on Jan 29, 2017 13:15:10 GMT -5
What's interesting about these responses is that none answer the question of "Why?" and instead focus on the idea that people should not complain about something that remains unexplained. I don't think that being nice people should be proffered as a reason to accept anything that any particular person or group chooses to do. That idea is actually pretty creepy. Think about that for a second guys. Also, why is there the assumption that OM and andrew are egoistically invested in this question and would find the input of users to be some sort of personal insult??
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Post by Mathcope on Jan 29, 2017 13:44:26 GMT -5
Since when is creepy to register in a website? I think I'm missing something here, but as fas as the internet goes, you are asked to be registered in almost anything. You wouldn't even have Sims 4 if you didn't register in Origin. We wouldn't have support of the game beside the EA forums, that guess what, also registry. The same goes for phones of any kind. Android, Apple, etc. If I'd choose to be afraid of my public image to go online, I'd start worring with those rather than with a harmless website about a program to create content for Sims 4! Nobody ask for someone to participate in this forum, if you are worried, unsecured about it, don't do it. Are you afraid of completing a form with your "important personal information"? As far as it goes, you can create a false profile as you'd do in any other web. You can create a false e-mail if you are that paranoid... but come on guys..
The registry is required because feedback from the community is needed. Either for the report of bugs in the program and for creator's personal help. This forums have helped a wide amount of people, asking no more than a registration as return. Why is that? Because organization is needed. They used to have a register free report of bugs, but trolls and spam just kept coming, and if anyone can post at any given time there's no way to stop this. Even with registration, there are some people who have invested their time in creating profiles just to troll this community. To identify yourself in any given area of your life is always needed, this is simply how is done. I can't imagine a web just full of anonymous random people, who feel really brave to tell any insults behind that anonymous veil.
Also, registration makes the invite for people to join the community, to share their creations, their problems, to let them know that they can be identified in here, they are not just a random person that come asking to recieve no respond. There also the system of badges where you can get rewards upon this path. Of course this is all for the people that wants to participate. Again, you are not obligated to do so...
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Post by Merry927 on Jan 29, 2017 15:53:13 GMT -5
^Aw, yes, actual reasons. Thanks, mathcope. Anyway, what is creepy is to respond to a perfectly legit question with an attitude of it somehow being rude and ungracious and as if someone's ego needs to be protected when that wasn't even asked for. Also, the fact that something is common doesn't automatically make it fine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:48:30 GMT -5
Back in the Early Days, you did not have to Register for the Tool. I believe since the Site has expanded into Creator Posts, after Andrew nailed the Object Mesh extraction down, it was only the Normal way to go.
All the main-go-to Sites that host Sims4 files, require registration. It can provide a good, Solid, representation of how many people are actually using/interested in the Tool. I don't care for Registration either, due to handing out my e-mail address....not because of my info...but, because i never read my e-mails - (Maybe, 3 times a year max. Ha!)
S4S is worth a Register for a Great Tool that you can use to make Great, Fun things. Rock On!
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Post by candyjay on Nov 21, 2017 3:23:20 GMT -5
I agree with you!
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