Making a Creature Sim - Need a bit of help


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Making a Creature Sim - Need a bit of help Jul 27, 2019 17:59:24 GMT -5

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Post by zuperbuu on Jul 27, 2019 17:59:24 GMT -5

I have managed to make a couple of mesh items to use for a creature in my game. I have made a skin, a tail (accessory) and his hair/mane (though the shoulders and chest are not rigged right), plus a working pair of semi digitigrade feet as shoes. However, when the Sim showers/bathes these feet obviously come off and I don't want that to happen. The feet right now work for all other outfits, and even when I use a cheat to assign the feet to the "bathing/nude" outfit they just keep removing the shoes, but his tail always remains on so I don't think it's the cheat/mod that is misbehaving here. I think it's my shoes. Obviously I would rather have these feet be applied as a body type/shape with proper leg deformation, but I don't know how to assign these feet to anything but the shoes/socks slot.

Remember, the meshes are all done already. They appear in game. So I have 3 questions, I just need some advice or a link to anything vaguely similar to what I am doing, so I can dissect it and see how it was made.

1. How do you rig hair that covers the shoulders and most of the chest? The back is rigged fine since I used the longest hair from the basegame I could find, but none cover the shoulders or chest on the level my hair/mane does. I even assigned the shoulder/chest vertex groups to the mesh and it had no effect.

2. Is it possible to merge new feet/hand/tail meshes into one and have it so that it will always be worn even when bathing? (Like a skin/tattoo, rather than clothing.)

3. If question 2 is possible, how would this be done?

I tried attaching an image for reference but I don't think it worked.
I haven't made detailed textures outside the body skin yet either so everything is in flat colours.

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Making a Creature Sim - Need a bit of help Jul 28, 2019 9:28:20 GMT -5 zuperbuu likes this

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Post by mauvemorn on Jul 28, 2019 9:28:20 GMT -5

Hi.
Did you enable "Nude" in Categories - Type of clothing - Nude?
How to transfer weight in this case:
1). Find rig and click on + button to unfold it;
2). Click on this eye icon next to head and head_2 to understand which one is the teeth and which one is the head ( it differs sometimes, probably depends on what CAS item is being made);
3). Make the head and the top selectable by clicking on this cursor icon;
4). Select each and duplicate them by pressing Shift D. Without moving the mouse, LMB-click in 3d view to finish;
5). Select top.001, shift-select head.001 and press Ctrl J to join;
6). Select your hair, delete all vertex groups;

7). Select your top+head mesh, Shift-select your hair, switch to Weight paint, transfer weights as show in the pic an use Clean tool

8). Don't forget to transfer the uv_1 map from this top+head mesh;

9). Once done, delete top+head mesh by RMB-clicking on it and choosing Delete.

As for combining thing, you can do this but there's a "but". If the meshgroup you are importing in the package has vertex groups that the original one that is being replaced does not have, there may be distortions in-game. If it won't happen to you, it may happen to someone else who will be using your content.
So, say, you start a package from feet that have no vertex groups needed for a tail or hands. You combine them and import in the same project, in-game the tail and hands might distort.

What you can do is combine all of your thematic cc ( minus hair ) in one full-body outfit and start the package from something that has shoes (read: foot and toe bones) ( for example, this)

Last Edit: Jul 28, 2019 9:32:09 GMT -5 by mauvemorn

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Making a Creature Sim - Need a bit of help Jul 28, 2019 10:05:01 GMT -5 mauvemorn likes this

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Jul 28, 2019 9:28:20 GMT -5 mauvemorn said:

Hi.
Did you enable "Nude" in Categories - Type of clothing - Nude?
How to transfer weight in this case:
1). Find rig and click on + button to unfold it;
2). Click on this eye icon next to head and head_2 to understand which one is the teeth and which one is the head ( it differs sometimes, probably depends on what CAS item is being made);
3). Make the head and the top selectable by clicking on this cursor icon;
4). Select each and duplicate them by pressing Shift D. Without moving the mouse, LMB-click in 3d view to finish;
5). Select top.001, shift-select head.001 and press Ctrl J to join;
6). Select your hair, delete all vertex groups;

7). Select your top+head mesh, Shift-select your hair, switch to Weight paint, transfer weights as show in the pic an use Clean tool

8). Don't forget to transfer the uv_1 map from this top+head mesh;

9). Once done, delete top+head mesh by RMB-clicking on it and choosing Delete.

As for combining thing, you can do this but there's a "but". If the meshgroup you are importing in the package has vertex groups that the original one that is being replaced does not have, there may be distortions in-game. If it won't happen to you, it may happen to someone else who will be using your content.
So, say, you start a package from feet that have no vertex groups needed for a tail or hands. You combine them and import in the same project, in-game the tail and hands might distort.

What you can do is combine all of your thematic cc ( minus hair ) in one full-body outfit and start the package from something that has shoes (read: foot and toe bones) ( for example, this)

I already applied the Nude flag, it turned out to be a conflicting mod that always ensured shoes/socks were removed when using a bathtub. This is just what I needed, I forgot about full-body outfits! Thank you very much, I'll also give the re-rigging of the hair a try using your method.


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