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inabadromance Global Moderator Posts: 4,829	Poses position.? Feb 21, 2015 16:54:10 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by inabadromance on Feb 21, 2015 16:54:10 GMT -5 I'm trying to make couples poses for in-game. The poses show fine but is the location of the bodies that is off. I tried translating one of them in blender but whenever i do this, that particular pose stops working. Any ideas?
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Poses position.? Feb 21, 2015 19:31:25 GMT -5 JaySimma and sweetsorrowsims like this

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Post by orangemittens on Feb 21, 2015 19:31:25 GMT -5

I haven't done a whole lot yet with couples poses but I just tossed a test one into the game to see what's going on with them. In Sims 3 the couples animations started out with each Sim 0.35 back from the center point (the point where the pose model shows up in Blender.) For my test I started with each 0.5 off from the center point and in the game that made the Sims too close indicating that 0.5 is further away than they will actually start their interaction. So I'm thinking Sims 4 might use about 0.35 as a start point too.

I used the mischief buzzer trick to trigger the pose and this is what I ended up with:

To make it I created two separate poses. One used the buzzer success interaction x and the other used the buzzer success interaction y. I exported both as create new and opened the x one in Blender. Then I appended the rig and model parts of y into the same .blend. I moved each Sim away from the center point by grabbing them in Object Mode and rotated them to face one another. I then went into pose mode and made the pose for the x model and then the y model. I saved the x one directly and used save as for the y model. In game they came out pretty close to what I wanted although, as I said, I think I was working with them too far away from where the pose would actually start in the game so I got some clipping.

When moving the entire model in Blender you should only use g when you're in object mode or when you're in pose mode with the b__ROOT_bind__ selected. This might be the issue you had with the pose ceasing to function.

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Poses position.? May 2, 2015 11:17:36 GMT -5

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Post by neophyte on May 2, 2015 11:17:36 GMT -5

Hi Orange. I've a little problem with location of couple poses. Just a few question:

In the part where do you say "Then I appended the rig and model parts of y into the same .blend" do you mean all files inside the Object folder? Or only body part as bottom, feet, head, rig and top? I've tried both with Lamps and Camera and without. Doesn't work. Player X make his pose but player y make the pose i've create in her position.

To be more clear: i create new animation for friendly hug for both x and y character. Then i append y file in x, with or without camera. Then i go in object mode, rotate them face to face and move one near the other for distance i need.

Now i switch in Pose mode and model both x and y in my wanted pose. At the end of modeling, i save the x file and y as "Save as". Now i've two package file.

I put both of them in Mods folder and launch my game. When animation start, the x and y model do the own pose but no face to face. The pose will start on initial position for both x and y characters, totally different from position that i can see in blender. Any hint?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my english!

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Poses position.? Jun 19, 2015 20:53:54 GMT -5

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Post by awfularchdemon on Jun 19, 2015 20:53:54 GMT -5

When I look at a sitting 2-person anim, the person on the right shows on the left, and the sim on the left appears on the right, each facing away from each other. Is this "normal"? Is that how it would show in-game? All I did was extract pre-made anims and view them both in Blender, after Appending one anim to another.

Also, the one on the right started normal, and "bounced" up to a higher position, and slowly descended as she performed her anim. Will that show the same way in-game as it does in blender as well? I was attempting to make slight adjustments to an already existing anim, but with so much other stuff going on, it's impossible to get this right. I'd like to make sitting anims with 2 sims from scratch, but I'd be hard pressed to get the positioning right with sims, and their butt-positions on the invisible couch.

Would be even harder if I included a child, because child sims show about 10% bigger in Blender than they do in-game, making it hard to judge where one might place her hand on her lap, or on a sim's shoulder, or anyplace specific like that. Just when you think your anim's perfect, it shows a child sim's arm/hand further from it's target in-game than it does in Blender, making something like a handshake or a high-5 very hard to make accurately.

Is there a way to lock someone's body position into place, so they appear in the same places in Blender as they do in-game? I tried to reposition the sim that was supposed to be on the right to their obvious designated spot, but I seemed to have to do that to every frame, quickly driving me to quit.

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Poses position.? Aug 7, 2015 17:00:49 GMT -5

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Post by tigresssimmer on Aug 7, 2015 17:00:49 GMT -5

I have the pose I want. How do I put it into Sims 4 Studio?
When I try, I get this message,

The Sims 4 Studio - Version 2.4.2.0

System.AggregateException: One or more errors occurred. ---> S4Studio.Blender.BlenderException: Traceback (most recent call last):

File "<string>", line 1, in <module>

File "<string>", line 18, in <module>

File "C:\Users\[UserName]\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.70\scripts\addons\s4studio\animation\blender.py", line 165, in save_clip

clip.max_frame_count = int(action.frame_range[1])

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'frame_range'

at S4Studio.Blender.BlenderUtilities.RunBlender(String script, String blend, Boolean background, Boolean check_version) in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio.Blender\BlenderUtilities.cs:line 238

at S4Studio.Blender.BlenderUtilities.ImportClip(String custom_blend, String custom_clip, String prefix) in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio.Blender\BlenderUtilities.cs:line 403

at S4Studio.ViewModels.Animation.AnimationPackCustomContent.<>c__DisplayClass17.<ExecuteImportAnimation>b__15() in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio\ViewModels\Animation\AnimationPackCustomContent.cs:line 246

at S4Studio.LoadingScreen.<>c__DisplayClass2.<Show>b__0() in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio\UI\LoadingScreen.xaml.cs:line 39

at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.InnerInvoke()

at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.Execute()

--- End of inner exception stack trace ---

at S4Studio.LoadingScreen.<>c__DisplayClass2.<Show>b__1() in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio\UI\LoadingScreen.xaml.cs:line 48

at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)

at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)

---> (Inner Exception #0) S4Studio.Blender.BlenderException: Traceback (most recent call last):

File "<string>", line 1, in <module>

File "<string>", line 18, in <module>

File "C:\Users\[UserName]\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.70\scripts\addons\s4studio\animation\blender.py", line 165, in save_clip

clip.max_frame_count = int(action.frame_range[1])

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'frame_range'

at S4Studio.Blender.BlenderUtilities.RunBlender(String script, String blend, Boolean background, Boolean check_version) in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio.Blender\BlenderUtilities.cs:line 238

at S4Studio.Blender.BlenderUtilities.ImportClip(String custom_blend, String custom_clip, String prefix) in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio.Blender\BlenderUtilities.cs:line 403

at S4Studio.ViewModels.Animation.AnimationPackCustomContent.<>c__DisplayClass17.<ExecuteImportAnimation>b__15() in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio\ViewModels\Animation\AnimationPackCustomContent.cs:line 246

at S4Studio.LoadingScreen.<>c__DisplayClass2.<Show>b__0() in c:\Workspace\Sims4Studio\TheS4Studio\S4Studio\UI\LoadingScreen.xaml.cs:line 39

at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.InnerInvoke()

at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.Execute()<---

orangemittens Administrator Posts: 12,297	Poses position.? Aug 7, 2015 20:46:22 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by orangemittens on Aug 7, 2015 20:46:22 GMT -5 Hi tigresssimmer, welcome to Studio forums. Your Studio is telling you that you need to set a keyframe. Please see the tutorials on how to make a pose for Sims 4 in our CAS/Pose tutorial forum.
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Post by inabadromance on Feb 21, 2015 16:54:10 GMT -5

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